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Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 0  
Hi Folks:

I have already confessed to being a newbie to houseboating. I also have already received my first info (domestic water pump)and it saved me a lot of grief. Now for something completely different...

I have been having reasonably good success compiling a set of owner/ operator manuals for my 1970, Chrysler 318, Dana Drive, Drift-R-Cruise. I may also have access to a mechanic who has worked on the Dana drive (if dock yard rumors are reliable). What I would like to know, as I am doing my own maintenance: What type (Brand) of lube do I use in the Dana leg? Any idea of what quantity? Does it feed like the newer Mercruiser: oil in through the bottom till it comes out the top?

Thanks,
Ron
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 3  
Check the DANA Sticky above. Any brand 90 weight. Pay attention to the filling information. If you don't understand something call me 205-796-5345
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 3  
Check the DANA Sticky above. Any brand 90 weight. Pay attention to the filling information. If you don't understand something call me 205-796-5345
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 0  
OHB knows Dans like the palm of his hand. Here is his info.


Dana Information 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 1
These questions come up every once in awhile:

What brand do I have:

Rounded upper with fin with hole DANA

Rounded upper with a chunk no hole DANA

Flat upper CHRYSLER DRIVE 90 and replacement housings, also Stern Power.

What model do I have:

Straight output shaft takes outdrive __style__ props, SHIFT IN OUTDRIVE - MODEL 80

As above WITHOUT SHIFT IN OUTDRIVE - MODEL 81

Tapered output shaft takes inboard __style__ prop, SHIFT IN OUTDRIVE - MODEL 90

As above WITHOUT SHIFT IN OUTDRIVE - MODEL 91

All the CHRYSLER units that I've seen were model 80 internal configuration.

In addition Model 81/91 came in 2 configurations:

R/R L/L and R/L L/R (engine/ outdrive) rotations

The model 81/91 used regular marine transmissions inside the engine compartment. Usually Warner Velvet Drives.

There were 2 gear ratios available but unless you have a 440 its not an issue.

THE INTERNAL DIMENSIONS OF THESE CASES IS IDENTICAL AND ANY PARTS CONFIGURATION WILL FIT IN ANY CASE.

OTHER:

Clutch pump oil pressure. 300 psi +/- 25 psi. If you get a junk yard or GM replacement pump swap out the reservoir which has the heat exchanger built in and also the relief valve which has the proper spring to provide the 300 psi. Same rules apply if your boat was equipped with the Chrysler pump (rare)

They also built a model 60 but I have never seen one.

They built a few units where the bellows had a protector over it. I have only seen 2 of these.

These units were some of the toughest outdrives ever built. The reason they shift so smooth is the hydraulic clutch mechanism on the engine. If this is maintained properly these units will last forever.

COMMON PROBLEMS:

Filling with oil. These units tend to get air locked and can fool you into thinking they are full. Operate them in foreward and reverse and check. These units hold 8 quarts of oil. If you have the extended length version they hold 9 1/2. Remove a capscrew out of the top of the shift lever cover when oil comes out you have the proper level. DON'T forget to put it back. Do not overfill because expansion can force out the top seal.

Hard shifting or clunking when shifting. hydraulic clutch not working - clutch plate stuck to flywheel.

Won't go into Foreward/Reverse. Springs or cotter pins in intermediate shift __link__ missing or broken. (sometimes called shift assist __link__ or shift booster) Note: make sure you use stainless cotters and springs for replacements.

No drive. splines stripped off primary shaft on clutch plate end. Always use spline grease or moly when installing the outdrive.

Rattling when turning. U joint shot. Look for same size Chevy joint, a lot cheaper.

Won't stay in gear or skips. Adjustment if your lucky, if your not Nubs are worn on clutch dog and gears.

Don't tell any body but these can be tig welded up and reground. Use something that comes out to about 50 rockwell hardness and grind to a 3 degree positive rake. Look in the yellow pages for CUTTER GRINDER SERVICE to do the grinding.

Marysville Marine in Marysville Michigan is a good source for help on these units as is Marine Parts.com The other Marysville Marine locations don't know these units exist.

Marine Parts.com for parts and manuals

http://www.marineparts.com/partspages/Dana/dana1.htm

If you get in trouble I have installation information with adjustment dimentions. However it will pay you to buy a manual.
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 0  
Thank you for the help, much appreciated.

One - or two - supplementary questions: Any 90 weight oil? (non-marine, car variety?) and 2.) What do I use to pump a 90 weight oil into the leg? Anything I had for my 93 Mercruiser won't pump something that heavy, I don't think so, anyway.

Thanks again.
Ron
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 0  
You need a pump manual like they use for cars. Goes on a 5 gallon can on 90. Any auto parts should have one.
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 0  
Thanks Pirate and Old Houseboater, until I get the knack of the Dana I might be higher maintenance than the drive.

Ron
 
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Re:Out-Drive Lube for 1970 Dana Drive 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 3  
Get a funnel and pour it in the plug on top. Read cautions on filling. Make sure you get the proper amount in. these units take a lot of "burping"
 
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